Some recent thoughts and sites I've come up with and across. Everything on 11/26/04 and before was all entered on 11/26/04 from ClipCache Plus from XRayz Software.
Wednesday, June 28, 2006
Response to Arianna Huffington's Yahoo question
Tuesday, June 27, 2006
Wreck of the Savannah on different aerial info
Friday, June 23, 2006
Wreck of the Savannah, "See you in Liverpool"
"The first ocean crossing by a steam-propelled vessel was in 1819, when the Savannah voyaged from Savannah, Ga., to Liverpool in 29 days, 11 hr. It was a full-rigged sailing ship fitted with engines and side paddlewheels; during the crossing the engines were in use for about 85 hr." ("History of the White Star Line") Elsewhere: "1819 After a 29-day voyage, the Savannah steamed into Liverpool, England becoming the first steamship to cross the Atlantic Ocean. With smoke billowing from its stacks, the Savannah sailed from its namesake city in Georgia on May 22. Once at sea, however, most of the voyage would be made under sail, as the ship's supply of fuel (coal and wood) was exhausted after 105 hours of steam power." (GeorgiaInfo, The University of Georgia) Wikipedia has a wonderful humorous story about it under "SS Savannah" and under "Passenger ship".
The first "steamship to cross the Atlantic Ocean" was later stripped of the machinery that had been designed by a New Jersey engineer and had been cast in a Robert Fulton associate's foundry ( Historic Speedwell Ironworks, Morristown, NJ) by a British firm who bought it. "After only two brief years she ran aground off Long Island and broke into pieces." I read somewhere off Fire Island, near Fireplace it sank in a storm and due to its historical significance (built in New York City at Corlears Hook, though the US "National Maritime Day" May 22 declared by Franklin D. Roosevelt, in 1933, celebrates its voyage out of the port of Savannah, Georgia, for Liverpool) some have tried to find it using different techniques.
"The Savannah was lost when she ran aground on Fire Island in 1821, across the bay from a village then known as Fireplace." from Dr. Clive Cussler's site
Also: "In 1962 the first commercial nuclear-powered ship, the NS Savannah, was launched in Camden, New Jersey. Named for the Savannah, the famous 19th century steamship that pioneered transatlantic steam travel, NS Savannah measures 182 m (596 ft) and is powered by nuclear-driven turbines. Although it was an engineering success, NS Savannah proved a commercial failure. It could not carry enough cargo to be competitive and required a larger crew than comparable oil-powered ships." (Encarta entry "Ship")
"NS Savannah remains the only commercial nuclear-powered vessel ever built. Nuclear power proved prohibitively expensive for commercial purposes. The military recognized the potential for nuclear power. Unrestricted by cost, navies of the United States, Russia, Britain, and France developed a variety of naval vessels operated by nuclear power." (Ibid.)
I've put a pushpin in the vicinity of the Atlantic Ocean in line with the toponym "Fireplace Neck" which appears on Bellport Bay. Ironically there is another Fireplace, NY toponym, across the water from Gardiners Island's white windmill, placed on the National Register of Historic Places Dec. 27, 1978. I placed a pushpin near it also. The other Fireplace that appears on maps is just north of Acabonack Harbor south of Hog Creek Point.
Google Earth Board for Savannah location
Back in the early 1980's I recall a gentleman proposing a number of archaeology surveys for the Savannah wreck location that archaeologist and alumnus Edward Johanneman, MA had been forwarded. One an aerial magnetometer survey which I think had been done but had not found anything. The gentleman was referred to as a millionaire. At the time the proposed new Federal wilderness designation, the only one in New York State to this day, for the Fire Island National Seashore, required an archaeological assessment which I carried to the public hearing at the William Floyd High School in Shirley, NY. I also stated that the Suffolk County Archaeology Association was for the new designation for the public record.
"Old Inlet" was through which much produce from "truck farming" had once, in reported upwards of 100 small ships, had been carried to nearby New York City. The story I was told was that a ship had gotten caught up in the inlet, another crashed into it and the whole thing filled in quite quickly, cutting off the former access to the Atlantic Ocean nearby Bellport, NY. Bellport was settled by people who actually solved a similar problem that had occurred in the 17th century! Ship salvors, they were hired to clear the "Old Inlet" and decided to stay in the "Belle Port" according to the story at a real estate office there. It was also known to the native locals for large fish.
As the Long Island Railroad reached easterly it stopped in Patchogue, probably carrying the produce once carried by ship, silk mills there too, where there had been many small mills in small estuaries. In fact I think the second cotton mill in the US was there or something like that. Travelers started to summer vacation in the vicinity of Bellport and the area east of Patchogue became known for its arts and politics. The musician/artists John Lennon and Yoko Ono thought of living there, the former Governor of Massachusetts lives there today, he once a candidate for ambassador to Mexico under President Clinton, Mr. Weld, whose family once had an estate in Smithtown on Long Island, now a Suffolk County Park, Blydenburg Park, and old former water powered industrial center near the NY State center in Hauppauge, NY. The artist who designed the "Atoms for Peace" stamp during the Eisenhower days lived in Bellport and today there are a number of interesting architectural sites, both old and new houses there. A ball bearing was patented there on March 13, 1866, at "Site of the Invention of Ball Bearing," Bellport, Long Island, NY by Oliver Hazard Perry Robinson stated on a small monument erected by the Bellport Brookhaven Historical Society in 1968.
However, with the closing of "Old Inlet" there has been a noticeable marsh land growth and former sediments that washed around pilings and docks have grown up into land where water once flowed according to a letter in the "New Jersey Geologist" I read in Drew University library a number of years ago.
Thirty years ago I won a summer job lottery with Brookhaven Parks, which administers Davis Park, about 7 3/4 miles from Smiths Point County Park. To get there one drove below the high tide line, and not on the trail there known as the "Burma Road" and crosses over the "Old Inlet". It was the summer of "Jaws" and some problems with "tar balls" washing up on the beaches, and I still remember being "on the beach" that day and told that we might have to have shots had we been in the water on the way to Davis Park. Turns out I later met the organizer of the study Mr. Swanson, for the NOAA at Stony Brook University, that determined that most of the material had come from some pier fires in New Jersey, according to the report I have.
I think I met him in a "security breach" at the Foundry Cove in Cold Spring, NY in the EPA National Priority Superfund cleanup of the Marathon Battery Site. That is they came around a fence and had been there already, but the tide was too high to come in under the rail bridge. I also heard that one researcher with him had been the original "finder" of the pollution from the cadmium, supposedly cleaned up once before, when the researcher decided to compare the tidal riparian Foundry Cove with the study site Stony Brook University has in lease, the tidal (now?) "Flax Pond" on the north shore of Long Island on the Long Island Sound near the university. For comparison, to study, and I think how the cove was found to be still contaminated.
Foundry Cove has since been dammed, hauled out mixed with concrete and transported out on rail cars, on the old rail bed once used by the West Point Foundry in the 19th and by the early 20th century. The earthen dam was torn open and the marsh is being restored to its more natural condition. Behind the broken historic stone dike, which was the only way over by foot to Constitution Island before the railroad perhaps, is Constitution Marsh, once a National Audubon holding, now a NY State Park of which its said the dike was for a rice production experiment, however. Constitution Island is clearly still part of West Point Military Academy, as stated on the warning at the railroad bridge egress.
Mrs. Swanson, who I met when they first moved to Long Island from Seattle, WA years ago, showed me some buried tree limbs turning up in the vegetable garden of the Setauket Presbyterian Church, where she was an Elder, and asked if I knew how we might find the locations of the burials in its graveyard as it was known that some of the stones had been moved and replaced during the Revolutionary War and it would be good to be able to verify what had been restored. Since then, great strides have been made in ground-penetrating radar and other remote, non-destructive means of testing that have developed, some of which I have had the opportunity to work with, though under less than ideal circumstances. However, at the time, I thought some illegal builder had buried the trees there, they seemed too new, but maybe they were part of the fort the church once turned into as did the Caroline Anglican church, the second oldest one in the US, a short distance away across the village green, with musket balls still lodged in it and from it. They both have been there since the middle of the 17th century. The Presbyterians when they left the Charles River in Massachusetts. The first minister, a doctor of theology, was of the first graduating class of Harvard University.
Location map techy
Brunel was voted "second greatest Briton of all time in 2002"
Great Science and special aviation museum:30 June - 2 July, 22.00 - midnight. Film Festival: Trains, Planes & Automobiles FREE Access to Museum Car Parking £2.00/vehicle Film tickets incur a charge. To mark Brunel's 200th birthday this unique event will include big screen films and vintage footage and activities for the children on the theme of Trains, Planes & Automobiles. Featuring Buster Keaton's classic silent 'The General', with live piano accompaniment, Stanley Kubrick's masterpiece 'Dr Stangelove' and Disney Pixar's new animated spectacular 'Cars'. For more information and to book tickets please visit www.trainsplanesautos.co.uk
Thursday, June 22, 2006
Response to "Begging the Question" blog
Wednesday, June 21, 2006
Tahawas, NY
Windows Live Link to North Creek, NY
North Creek Railroad Depot
Where after a series of night-time buckboard rides down from Tahawas, near Mt. Marcy, Vice President Theodore Roosevelt read the telegram that informed him, that after eight days, President McKinley had died. He had been shot at the Pan American Exposition in Buffalo, NY by an anarchist. The President boarded a special train here for Buffalo, NY where he was officially sworn in.
Photos are of North Creek Depot and WorldWind 1.3 NASA 3D from USGS orthophotos in the vicinity of the depot. The white house is gone from the corner as many of the nearby trees there. Nearby is Bennett's airfield, perhaps named after Floyd Bennett? He was born nearby in Warrensburg, NY. The first commercial airfield in NYC was named after him, in Brooklyn, Floyd Bennett Field is now part of the U.S. Gateway National Recreation Area in NY/NJ. Pilot John Glenn once set a transcontinental jet record to or from there, later set records as an astronaut and elected U.S. Senator from Ohio, and an astronaut again on the Space Shuttle. However until the road improvements in the 1930's, horse drawn vehicles left North Creek for Indian Lake, and a stagecoach was running in the early 20th century. I recently found what might have been the factory remains associated with the slaughterhouse, which supplied many of the Adirondack hotels and retreats there as described in the local history of North Creek, originally started in the 1850's as a center for tanning due to the abundance of hemlock trees. Its railhead came with the transcontinental railroad builders and that tanning industry continued until the hemlock bark ran out in the 1880's. Some of the earliest organized skiing occured in North Creek, as trucks and buses took skiers up to the garnet mines where they skied down into the hamlet and rode back up. Trains from NYC left with Saks 5th Avenue and Wall Street ski groups on the train to North Creek, and others also came from around the State. Ski lifts developed to replace the trucking around the mountain, when someone hooked up a V-8 driven wheel and rope, and lifts followed and eventually Gore Mountain opened. However, the large facility has isolated the hamlet's historic ski bowl and urging New York State with a petition to recreate the Ski Bowl by connecting it with the mountain, opening old trails and with minor changes connecting to the new ones of Gore Mountain, which has made snow from the Hudson River, only about forty miles from its source in the "Tear in the Clouds". Associated construction would follow from willing investment which thinks more New Yorkers would come to North Creek instead of spending their money in "nearby" Vermont ski centers. Windows Live Link (Google has yet to show higher resolution for this area around Gore Mountain)
Tuesday, June 20, 2006
TMZ
28. I wonder if my cousin George Murray, who after an Army captain's stint in Korea, and after Signal Corps film editing work ("Seinfeld's" "Kramer" and actor Martin Landau's former service) directing "Huntley and Brinkley" and then producing NBC News, often in Saigon and Houston, knew each other. At least Edwin Newman, who wrote me a nice letter, is not reading Mr. Rather's eulogy at the UN Chapel! Sorry about the ranch he owns, unbelievable. CBS was first in the public libraries here in the Bronx, on City Island, where some boys had just drowned, with the DVD version of the day's events of Sept. 11, 2001, though contributing "5% of the profit to the victims" seemed a little odd, on the back of the set.
The "memogate" debacle was entirely a Trojan Horse in my view, and CBS fell for it, though Michael Wood over at PBS would have us think perhaps the "horse" an earthquake. I like to think it more a Texan "hold 'em up" feint, from those who led by a President collecting twice the salary of the previous President, have alot to lose if their "posse" were to be found led by the wrong man. I for one enjoyed the Texas Rangers as a kid and as an adult, Mr. Rather always reminded me of one, in his serious, thoughtful news presentation. Happy trails, Mr. Rather! Posted at 5:14PM on Jun 20th 2006 by George Myers 0 stars
Monday, June 19, 2006
Slate: Jurisprudence: Battle of Hudson Heights
Sunday, June 18, 2006
"The Five Year Mission Continues"
They turn the electricity back on to the US embassy in Cuba yet?
Magnets?
Saturday, June 17, 2006
Announcing the First Annual "Inspire George Bush Film Festival"
Friday, June 16, 2006
Leonard Nimoy plays a football player (1952)
Thursday, June 15, 2006
Allegheny River: micturate in NY it flows past New Orleans
Ombudsmenship
In Canada I found, in the province of New Brunswick, that the ombudsman "a government appointee who investigates complaints by private persons against the government" installed in the local government, at least on Grand Manan Island, (the office just in back of the government run liquor store, that, I was there for the opening of, as the U.S. Selective Service fiddled with my draft number's eligibility, and "we" both changed after that, the legal drinking age; up to 19, 20, and then 21 there.)
I think if we had more "ombudsmenship" in government we would not have runaway elected officials who think they can go ahead with their policies so readily, because more people would be offended that a "middle course" through the issues was not, at the very least considered. My background, raised in Centereach, NY (a place name previous would have duplicated another in New York State according to the Post Office, which once appointed to by the President and just summarily dismissed, oops, there is no legal recourse (Myers vs. a previous White House in an appointment in the State of Washington) requires I speak up for the center of each, so to speak.
Unleash The Ombudsing. And The Not-Just-An-Ombudsing. - Public Eye
Blogged with Flock
Cinematical: Guilty Pleasures: Popeye
Wednesday, June 14, 2006
Shipwreck-CITY OF ATLANTA
Shipwreck of the "City of Atlanta" a freighter sunk by the German U-boat, U-123 on January 19, 1942. It's captain was Master Mariner Leman Chapman Urquhart, a harbor pilot and Grand Manan Island, New Brunswick, Canada native (misspelled in Gannon's "Operation Drumbeat") two survivors, loss of 43. The ship was on the way to Savannah, Georgia, from a NYC dock on her regular run. It was built in West Chester, Pennsylvania in 1903, I thought a large side-wheeler, according to a photo in the library of the National Maritime Historical Society in Peekskill, NY. My grandfather's brother was the captain, and in a twist of fate, a high school associate interviewed the captain of the U-boat in the late 1980's as a television journalist. I'm not sure if the NY Times photo is the ship or not now. (Coastal Survey, Chart 7, Record 674). Google Earth at Latitude 35?23'28.64"N Longitude 75?20'12.52"W
However there is this "Special to the NY Times" January 21, 1942 in the listings of the Association of Underwater Explorers (AUE) web-site and is located on the map of Cape Hatterras here.
Tuesday, June 13, 2006
Sikorsky Strike and Sea King
Lockheed martin Presidential helicopter facility opens in Southern Tier
Lockheed Martin Systems Integration’s new $37.4 million Presidential Helicopter Integration Facility in the Village of Owego, Tioga County was officially opened Monday. The new facility will house the integration, testing, and delivery operations for the next–generation “Marine One” helicopter that will be used by the President of the United States.
See Saturday, March 18, 2006 Tax Cuts and the Republican Legacy
CRMarchaeology-NY : Message: Re: "if only I had a degree..."
Monday, June 12, 2006
G.L.O.R.I.A. Gloria...
CBS News PublicEye
2005 4th of July, Senator McCain addressed the British press at the BBC Alistair Cooke Memorial Lecture, which they presented as: "In front of an invited audience at the English Speaking Union in London, on the day that Americans celebrate their independence from Britain 229 years ago, Senator McCain will argue that "to be an American patriot is to support a moral mission at home and abroad". Introduced by broadcaster Nick Clarke, the biographer of Alistair Cooke. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/news/alistair_cooke_lecture.shtml) To many that moral mission is also the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, which the State of New York would not sign without the other. Many of the issues of the American Revolution have been overlooked I have found, patriot issues just as important there as in Boston and perhaps even more so, were we "divided and conquered" along the Hudson River, north from south.
Friday, June 09, 2006
Hot time, summer in the city...
Tuesday, June 06, 2006
Janeane Garofalo's radio commentary partner on Air America Sam Seder
Monday, June 05, 2006
Bleach I couldn't grow up with, iron stains
Your honor, Kate Mulaney, sitting next to Susan B. Anthony in Germania Hall in NYC during the Haymarket Riots in Chicago, Illinois, was the first woman elected to a union's management. She organized the "collar workers" of Troy, New York, which bleached, cleaned and ironed the detachable collars there invented that allowed the management class to wear the same shirt more than one day. The accused has shown a blatant disregard for women's history and should be fined for the unequal payment of women in general for their labor and work, even though it's just a bottle of bleach. Her house was recently placed on the American National Register of Historical Places, in Troy, NY. Germania Hall was unceremoniously torn down in the Bowery, where NYC's theater district once was.
Sunday, June 04, 2006
mines in his gravity gun the train would never leave the station, in fact nothing would happen at all.Half-Life 2: First Episode, from VALVe, just out June 1, 2006



